hagen_dogs 9 months ago

I'm curious to know if IA has ways of detecting whether archived pages were deleted. If rewriting history has big implications, doing so for "the internet" would similarly be big.

  • EricE 9 months ago

    Someone discovered a large chunk of blog.twitter.com was gone, so some screwing around has already happened. The IA is now below Wikipedia for credibility :/

    EDIT: https://x.com/0rf/status/1847814884794253671

    • MichaelZuo 9 months ago

      I thought they had multiple copies of their archive stored in seperate locations?

      Even a full deletion in one datacentre shouldn't erase an entire chunk like that.

      • EricE 9 months ago

        It will be interesting to see if it comes back, or if there is an explanation offered.

        If people have been in there for years altering data do they have enough backups to fully detect it?

        Do they have mechanisms to verify existing data with backups? Are they even bothering? It would be nice to know - until then I think the IA is interesting, but not trustworthy.

vouaobrasil 9 months ago

This attack was harsh...it's a shame such people don't spend their intelligence on doing something good for society.

  • jampekka 9 months ago

    Indeed, they could be hacking e.g. book publishers.

    • mossTechnician 9 months ago

      I imagine the Internet Archive has made a lot of enemies. When it went down, there were probably a lot of publishing companies that were ecstatic about it.

    • vouaobrasil 9 months ago

      I was thinking more along the lines of taking down AI companies.

chrisjj 9 months ago

> Hackers ... sent emails to patrons by exploiting a 3rd party helpdesk system.

Disingenuous or what?

Hackers sent emails by exploiting IA's failure to secure its access to that helpdesk system.

jolmg 9 months ago

What's a "transparency website"?